[NEW UPDATE] Indelible Ink Is Here To Stay, No Biometric System
Sesetengah pengundi mendapati bahawa dakwat kekal yang digunakan dalam PRU13 boleh ditanggalkan dengan 'baby' oil dan sabun cuci pinggan.
By anisanur — 30 Apr 2013, 06:44 PM — Updated over 10 years ago
The EC says indelible ink was successful during the Kuala Besut by-election
Its chairman, Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof, noted that while there were some flaws with the indelible ink during the 13th general election, the EC managed to overcome the problem during the Kuala Besut by-election recently.
"The public has to know that the indelible ink and the biometric system are two different things... it is not that easy to switch. We will continue using the indelible ink as the laws have not been amended."
"We hope there won't be any more issues cropping up about the indelible ink, there won't be people trying their hardest to wash away the ink like in GE13."
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Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim had announced at the Dewan Rakyat on July 17 that the government was ready to consider replacing the indelible ink with the biometric system. "It (the biometric system) is the best solution, we will make sure that it is discussed."
The biometric system, Annuar pointed out, was more feasible as Malaysia already had a comprehensive registration system in place in the form of the identity card.
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Ambiga says we need to get the the bottom of this
"I am horrified and shocked by this." This was the reaction of Bersih co-chair Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan when asked to comment on the latest furore in Parliament today after it was revealed that food colouring had been used instead of chemicals in the indelible ink used to mark voters' fingers in the May 5 polls.
Image via stasiareport.com"I am horrified and shocked by this." This was the reaction of Bersih co-chair Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan when asked to comment on the latest furore in Parliament today after it was revealed that food colouring had been used instead of chemicals in the indelible ink.
yahoo.comAmbiga said the EC's story on the ink kept changing and called for an independent investigation into the election body.
"And did we pay RM7 million of taxpayers' money for food colouring? We need go get to the bottom of this. This revelation underscores Bersih's view that the EC leadership should resign," she added.
yahoo.comThe Election Comission admits indelible ink was actually food dye. What now?
The Election Commission (EC) today admitted in the Dewan Rakyat that the indelible ink used in the recent General Election was not what it was made out to be.
Minister in the Prime Minister's Department Datuk Seri Shahidan Kassim today said an approved food colouring was used to replace the chemical used in the indelible ink purchased for the 13th general election.
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EC chairman Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Mohd Yusof has previously claimed the indelible ink has a low level of silver nitrate and herbal ingredients were used to substitute the amount of the silver nitrate, thus, making it easily removed.
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The cost for the use of indelible ink during the May 5 polls was RM6.9million, covering the costs for designing special ink bottles, the brushes, the boxes as well as the cost for the unique ink mixture, seeing as how it was not available in the market.
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33 laporan dibuat terhadap isu dakwat tidak kekal
Sebanyak 33 laporan polis dibuat oleh wakil dan Pengerusi Pusat Mengundi Daerah (PDM) Parlimen Muar hari ini bagi menggesa siasatan terhadap dalang yang berterusan mengeksploitasi isu penggunaan dakwat kekal untuk memburukkan sistem Pilihan Raya Umum Ke-13 (PRU-13) pada 5 Mei lalu.
utusan.com.myMohd. Ismail ketika ditemui berkata, tindakan pihak yang mempertikaikan penggunaan dakwat kekal itu jelas mempunyai agenda bagi memastikan rakyat terutama pengundi tidak berpuas hati dan merasakan proses demokrasi itu berlangsung secara tidak telus atau jujur.
utusan.com.myThe Election Commission (EC) said police reports on the indelible ink would not be enough to dispute the results of the 13th general election, as the ink was only an additional element to the electoral process.
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EC deputy chairman Datuk Wan Ahmad Wan Omar also described the allegation as “grasping at straws”, adding that there had not been a single report to justify the claims.
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“The EC admits that there were cases in some areas that our workers had some problem with the ink. But as we said so many times, indelible ink was used as an added element to prevent multiple voting,” he said.
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Anwar lodges police report over indelible ink washing off
MALAYSIA Anwar: Thousands of reports so far against indelible ink fiasco UPDATED @ 06:01:02 PM 27-05-2013 BY CLARA CHOOI ASSISTANT NEWS EDITOR MAY 27, 2013 Anwar (right) and Wan Azizah are seated at a counter of a police station at Tropicana in Petaling Jaya, May 27, 2013. — Picture by Saw Siow Feng
Image via themalaysianinsider.comOpposition chief Anwar Ibrahim and PKR president Wan Azizah lodged police reports against the Election Commission for "so-called indelible ink" that could be washed off, claiming that this paved the way for mass "cheating" at the May 5 general election.
Anwar made the report at 12.30 pm at the Tropicana police station near here, close to the PKR headquarters, claiming that the ink stain on his finger was easily removed.
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"We voted at about 9.30am but by 5pm our fingers were clear and there were no more signs of the ink.
"The Election Commission (EC) had guaranteed that the ink will last for five days yet this is not the case," he said at a press conference on Monday.
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Thousands are swarming police stations nationwide to lodge reports on the alleged failure of the indelible ink used in the recent general election, answering Pakatan Rakyat’s (PR) call for help with its campaign to prove cheating during Election 2013, Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim said today.
“We have thousands of reports so far. We have announced that only those who could satisfy the position, that they did vote and secondly, that the black ink disappeared either on the first or following day,” said Anwar.
Rafizi Ramli menggalakkan pengundi melapor kes dakwat kekal
Rafizi Ramli: Penipuan mereka berkenaan dakwat kekal sangat jelas. Adakah kita akan biarkan mereka terlepas begitu sahaja? Sesiapa yang masih belum buat laporan polis berkenaan dakwat kekal, mohon luangkan sedikit masa ke balai polis berdekatan. Buat laporan dan emelkan salinan laporan kepada [email protected]. Bertindaklah sekarang. Ajak kawan-kawan untuk turut serta. Lapor polis sekarang, dedahkan penipuan mereka.
Image via akamaihd.netRafizi Ramli:
Penipuan mereka berkenaan dakwat kekal sangat jelas. Sesiapa yang masih belum buat laporan polis berkenaan dakwat kekal, mohon luangkan sedikit masa ke balai polis berdekatan. Buat laporan dan emelkan salinan laporan kepada [email protected].
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SPR menubuhkah pasukan khas untuk siasat isu dakwat tak kekal
Suruhanjaya Pilihan Raya (SPR) hari ini menubuhkan pasukan khas bagi mengenal pasti punca yang menyebabkan dakwat kekal yang digunakan pada Pilihan Raya Umum ke-13 (PRU13) lepas tidak kekal lama selepas dicalit.
beritatempatan.comPengerusi SPR, Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Mohd. Yusof berkata, berdasarkan pengalaman pertama itu, SPR yang mengadakan mesyuarat hari ini, memutuskan untuk menubuhkan 'Pasukan Khas Menyemak Masalah-Masalah Penggunaan Dakwat Kekal PRU Ke-13' untuk meneliti hal-hal berkaitan dakwat kekal itu.
kosmo.com.myBeliau berkata pasukan itu antara lain akan mengkaji aspek ramuan, syarat Kementerian Kesihatan, cara penggunaan dakwat kekal dan kaedah calitan dakwat kekal di jari.
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Pasukan itu juga akan meneliti hasil ujian yang telah dibuat sebelum dan selepas dakwat itu dihantar ke Malaysia.
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A Facebook image of Najib and BN leaders with clean fingers?
This Facebook circulated picture of PM Najib, Muhyiddin, Rosmah and more, without stained fingers/hands.
Image via akamaihd.netDakwat kekal akan diteruskan pada PRU14
SPR akan meneruskan penggunaan dakwat kekal pada pilihan raya umum ke-14 (PRU14) dengan melaksanakan beberapa penambahbaikan terutama dari segi kualiti dakwat.
"Kami akan kaji ramuan dakwat itu, serta meletakkan satu standard terhadap kualiti dakwat itu," Timbalan Pengerusi SPR, Datuk Wan Ahmad Wan Omar, berkata.
bharian.com.myWan Ahmad Wan Omar berkata penggunaan dakwat kekal itu akan tetap dilaksanakan kerana ia diputuskan oleh Jawatankuasa Khas Parlimen dan dimaktubkan dalam undang-undang pilihan raya.
sinarharian.com.myWan Ahmad berkata penggunaan dakwat itu hanyalah untuk menghalang pengundi mengundi dua kali.
bharian.com.myNamun jika dakwat di jari mereka hilang, ia tidak bermakna mereka dapat mengundi sekali lagi kerana asas utama yang dilihat oleh SPR ialah nama pengundi dalam daftar pemilih.
Jabatan Peguam Negara menerima lebih daripada 100 aduan
Jabatan Peguam Negara menerima lebih 100 laporan membabitkan penggunaan dakwat kekal sepanjang proses mengundi bermula sejak hari pengundian awal 30 April lalu.
Ketua Bahagian Pendakwaan jabatan Abdul Wahab Mohamed: "Jabatan Peguam Negara telah menyerahkan aduan berkenaan kepada Suruhanjaya Pilihan Raya (SPR) untuk siasatan lanjut."
sinarharian.com.myThe first report received was from Port Dickson, Negri Sembilan on April 30, which claimed the ink was washable and did not conform to what was said earlier, he said here yesterday.
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Kualiti dakwat kekal berbeza dengan negara lain kerana halal
The indelible ink used in Election 2013 has a different strength from those used in other countries since it has to comply with halal and health regulations, EC said today.
yahoo.comDakwat 'tak kekal' mencemarkan #PRU13
“I’m not worried about indelible ink washed off today because tomorrow you cannot vote,” EC deputy chairman Datuk Wan Ahmad Wan Omar told reporters.
Bagaimana SPR menamakan dakwat itu dakwat kekal? Siapa tipu siapa? Samada pembekal menipu SPR atau SPR menipu pengundi atau pengundi menipu dirinya? Rakyat memerlukan penjelasan,”
SAYS menerima laporan daripada pengundi, "Kenapa dakwat kekal tak kekal?"
Today i voted at Sg.Dua, Penang for Dun Batu Uban and parlimen Bayan Lepas. The indelible ink came off after i washed and scrubbed my finger. Did not use any soap, just water. It came off 90%.
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About an hour after I voted, I decided to see if I could wash off the indelible ink &, as you can see from the attached picture, most of it came off with a little soap and water. I voted in Seputeh (122).
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Voted this morning at 9am. By 12 my ink is washed off by L'Oreal Men Expert face wash.
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Both of the voters are from 111 / 49 / 10 - TAMAN KLANG JAYA 1. They voted at 10am this morning and realized that the ink can be easily washed off by body shampoo.
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Voting time: 12.30pm Time of washing finger with normal soap: 1pm Ink came out completely. Voting Station: Sek Keb St Xavier Dun: Pulau Tikus, Penang
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I've had the ink on for four hours and managed to get it off within 5 minutes with water and liquid soap.
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I voted at 9am ans washed it off at 1pm and it came off as easy as it was applied. I put on some soap powder and lightly scrub it with the green scrub people use to wash plates and it came off without any effort. :/
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I made my mom use some saliva on her finger as I noted mine had smudged when I rubbed my finger on my way home. Basically in the last picture she used some nail varnish remover and it was all clean.
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Voted in Sek. Ren. Agama (JAIM) Taman Peringgit Jaya, Melaka Under DUN Bachang, Parliament Bukit Katil Applied Colgate on finger 10 minutes after voting and wash off with water.
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I went to my voting station, in Jit Sin Independent School under Bukit Mertajam constituency at about 8:15am. As I got home at around 8:40ish, i tried to test if the ink is indeed indelible. I washed with nail polish remover, then rubbed with oil and washed again with dish soap. The ink came right off with no traces of ink on my previously marked finger.
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i use dish washer detergent to clean the plates, i found the ink was came off a bit, so i continue washing it with the detergent, and you can see the result
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All it took was soap, sanitizer and water. Rub for around 10mins, and its off, completely.
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went voting between 10.30am-11-15am. Return home and had hand washed. All ink came out. Please look at the photo I took as proof with the time taken. Constituency is: Sek. Integrasi Masjid Darul Ehsan Subang Jaya(Rendah&Men.) Jalan SS15/2E.
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- first round with soap and dishwash scrub (1 hr after casting vote) - 2nd round tooth paste and toothbrush (1 hr after first round wash) - for batu lanchang, Penang
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Voting for seputeh polling at sek keb sri saujana seri petaling.wash with normal soap and a dish washing cloth.2hour after my voting
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The indelible ink was easily washed off with soup and water. Same as my parents that have went for voting as well.
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pic of my dad and i after voting this morning. He did in janda baik, bentong while i did in batu caves. Mine clean with dish washer. My dad just using tap water
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Voting area: stampin,kuching, sarawak Center: sekolah menengah kebangsaan tabuan jaya Room number: 4 Voted around 8.30am today. Once i got into the car i use wet wipes...it remove within 10 min.
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First, I tried to remove it with normal tesco manufactured handwash liquid. I manage to make it faded abit but still clearly visible. After that I thought it was indelible indeed and I took a picture with my finger in order to post in facebook. Short after, a friends of mine told me he manage to remove the ink with cif detergent (honesty I don't know what is it). Then another friend of mine told me it can be removed with dish washing detergent. Therefore I gave it a try with SUNLIGHT (photo attached) that I found in my kitchen. I then managed to remove the ink using dish washing cloth, those rough surface green color one, don't know how should I call it.
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I voted at 8 am. First in line. Went for a breakfast. Came home. Around 9am Tried to wash it off. With just a protex bar soap and fingers rubbing without brushing for a few minutes. Almost can't see dy. Ee Ling Bukit lanjan Dun Subang Parliament
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1. Mode: Scrubbing with dishwashing gel - sunlight. Time: approximately 1 hour after casting of vote. The ink has already dried. 2. I casted my vote in Batu Pahat. N23 Penggaram. Sekolah Tinggi Batu Pahat.
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My daerah mengundi is Sungai Bertih Selatan. I cast my vote at about 845 am. At about 930, I attempted to remove the indelible ink, and I was successful. It was scrubbed off under running water after 10 minutes using a combination of dishwashing liquid and body wash.
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My name- michelle yip Daerah Mengundi- 106/36/10-ss26 Pusat Mengundi- Sekolah Jenis Kebangsaan (c) Yuk Chai. With just one wash with dishwasher. Please assist!
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Indelible ink on my left index finger partially came off with wet tissue wiping, when reached home, I wash it with dish detergent and magic sponge, the indelible ink was completely gone, attached photos. -CW Lim
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I ran my finger under running water (no scrubbing) immediately after and it faded a little. Washed with soap and a light scrub when I got home. Constituency : Bukit Baru / Bukit Katil / Melaka Name : Lesley Lim
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Anonymous: As you can see in the pic, my indelible ink stain from N120 bukit bintang isn't very indelible. Used regular shower bar soap, just rubbed my soapy fingers together, no external tools. Done within half an hour of ink application
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Mia Foo: this should be non washable ink, but photo proven that it can be washed.
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Voted at SK Bandar Teknologi Semenyih. My sister Michelle Low washed her finger after the election and it is all gone. All she used was just washing powder and water, less than 1 min it came off.
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Jason: Took a shower and the ink it's gone.. You can still see a little left in my nail
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My ink did not stay on. I have attached my before and after picture. Washed it with soap and it came off quite easily. Voted in Segambut and my polling station was in Sekolah Kebangsaan Sri Hartamas.
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Polling station: SK Matang Jaya (in Kuching, Sarawak) Seat: PetraJaya Jian Goh: I apply johnson baby wash and normal soap, and it's 95% clean. I put some dish detergent, it comes off 98%. Let it dry and wash it again with johnson baby, it's gone. :|
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Alex Sim: The first picture shows that I just got the ink after putting my vote. It should dry about 30 sec. It didn't. I didn't touch it until after I came out of the hall, did a swipe using Premier Tissue paper provided by SPR in Saluran 8 at my polling station. After which I bathe and went out to Lembah Pantai to help spot foreign voters. I was drenched in rain so I was wet. After which I came home and bathe again and I took the 6PM picture. I did not use anything to scrub, nor alcohol. It is a waste of money from the SPR! (Daerah Mengundi 122 / 00 / 03 - Taman Desa)
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Lee Yin Ling: just regular washing of hands with handwash gel plus brushing with toothpaste a few times in 3-4 hours after voting, at 38 Paya Jaras, 107 Subang
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JC: I manage to wash this off with water and soap a few times. Voted in TTDI High School for Segambut district. All within 45 mins. I was also the first inline in my stream. I wondered if the Polling agent shake the bottle well enough.
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PKR: Kredibiliti SPR telah terjejas walaupun SPR yakin bahawa petugas akan mengikut arahan
“SPR secara jelasnya telah menipu kepada rakyat Malaysia mengenai integriti SPR dan integriti PRU13. SPR juga telah menjejaskan integriti pembuangan undian dan kredibiliti keputusan PRU13 ini
Dr Wan Azizah says “I find it unbelievable. How can you not train your staff to do something as basic as that? They are at fault. Something is very wrong with this process."
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Disebalik protes, SPR memberi jaminan mereka mempunyai langkah pencegahan untuk mengelakkan pengundi mengundi dua kali.
The Election Commission (EC) stands by the indelible ink and will use it for polling this Sunday despite allegations in the social media that it can be easily washed off.
thestar.com.myAs of this morning, only 2 reports were lodged with regards to the debility of the indelible ink; One from Tian Chua and second from Nurul Izzah Anwar.
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Setiausaha SPR berkata petugas tidak goncangkan botol seperti diarahkan
SPR akan mengadakan demonstasi kepada wakil media esok untuk menunjukkan perkara itu.
terbakor.comUjian yang dilakukan oleh SPR semalam adalah terhadap pegawai-pegawai SPR yang telah mengundi secara pos dengan sebahagian daripada mereka dicalit dengan dakwat kekal yang botolnya tidak digoncang
Hasilnya jari mereka yang telah dicalit dengan dakwat kekal yang botolnya digoncang lebih kekal dakwat itu di jari mereka dibandingkan dengan botol yang tidak
SPR akan meneruskan penggunaan dakwat kekal pada 5 Mei 2013 selaras dengan kehendak undang-undang yang sedang berkuat kuasa.
“Notwithstanding the impact of indelible ink, the EC like to emphasise that early voters who voted on April 30 cannot vote again on May 5 because their names do not exist in the electoral roll for
Dakwat kekal yang dicalit pada jari pengundi awal boleh dicuci
PAS Negeri Sembilan hari ini mendedahkan bahawa dakwat yang dicalit pada jari pengundi awal iaitu anggota tentera boleh dicuci dan hilang selepas lebih kurang 20 minit mengundi.
Bukti bergambar dimuat naik pada pelbagai laman web, ia menunjukkan bahawa dakwat kekal yang dicalit boleh hilang hanya dengan dicuci sabun.
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Naib Presiden PKR, Tian Chua berkata, beberapa anggota keselamatan 20 telah menemui beliau untuk menunjukkan bagaimana dakwat boleh "sepenuhnya" dikeluarkan dengan gel sanitiser tangan.
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"Ini sangat mengecewakan," Tian Chua ketika dihubungi, sambil menambah bahawa dia telah membuat laporan pada pukul 2 petang hari ini di balai polis Koperasi Polis Taman, Batu Caves.
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Pengerusi SPR Tan Sri Abdul Aziz Yusog ketika dihubungi meminta perkara itu diserahkan kepada polis untuk menyiasatnya kerana laporan polis sudah dibuat.
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Gambar-gambar dakwat yang tidak kekal
Dakwat kekal yang dicalit pada jari pengundi awal boleh dicuci. 30 April 2013.
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Apa kata Setiausaha Perhubungan PAS negeri, Mohamad Hassan Tamby?
Setiausaha Perhubungan PAS negeri berkata, "Kalau dakwat hilang dalam 10% masih tak mengapa, tetapi boleh dikatakan 95% dakwat sudah hilang & seolah-olah seperti tiada lagi kesan dakwat pada jari."
"Ini bermakna Pakatan Rakyat sebelum ini yang bimbang dakwat jari akan hilang selepas tiga hari terbukti benar, kerana bukan tiga hari, tetapi dalam masa beberapa jam sahaja dakwat sudah hilang."
"SPR pada mulanya pernah berkata pengundian awal akan diadakan tiga hari sebelum tarikh mengundi, kini telah mengadakan pengundian awal lima hari sebelum tarikh mengundi."
"SPR harus memberi penjelasan berhubung perkara ini agar rakyat tidak meragui kredibiliti dan ketelusan SPR."
Apakah dakwat kekal?
Dakwat kekal" (indelible ink) bererti "tidak dapat dihilangkan". Tanda dakwat kekal biasanya kalis air dan tahan selama beberapa hari, atau hampir seminggu.
Tanda ini akan hilang apabila sel kulit lama mati dan digantikan dengan sel kulit baru, oleh itu sebarang tanda pada kutikel dijamin hilang dalam tempoh 2-3 minggu.
Apakah yang rakyat paling bimbangkan dalam pilihan raya ke-13 ini?
Here are the top 5 things Malaysians are worried about during the 13th general election. What are your worries?
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