KL Romance Scam Pt. 2: Conned And Duped, Woman Tries To Unmask Her Scammer
After being duped by the guy she fell for, who turned out to be an online scammer, she is now trying to not only unmask her scammer but also sharing her story in the hopes that it will help other women out there be safe. This is a two-part series, detailing the experience of a woman in KL who was the victim of an online romance scam.
Earlier, you read how a KL woman fell prey to a guy named 'Derry Johnstone' and ended up losing thousands of ringgit to him. In that story, it was revealed how Derry used his elaborate scheme to dupe the woman and used an accomplice identified as Abdan bin Munir.
After the incident, she filed a police report in USJ 8 police station. While trying to dig more information about the man named Abdan bin Munir, whose bank account was used by Derry to dupe money from her, the woman's efforts paid off and someone who identified himself as the son of Abdan bin Munir, added her on Facebook. He claimed that his father is innocent.
She created a new Facebook account under the name of 'Scamvic KL', and started sharing her story of how she was scammed for it to go viral as much as possible. Her intention behind doing so, she says, was that, firstly, she wanted to warn other women about it, but also because she wanted to find someone who had any information about the owner of the bank account holder. That bank account belonged to a man named Abdan bin Munir.
As a result of which, she was contacted and added by someone who identified himself as the son of Abdan bin Munir. After some investigation, she was quite sure this person is actually Abdan's son, based on the number of photos on his profile, and the fact that he had listed his family connections, which led her to a profile of his mother which showed her married to a man named Abdan bin Munir.
Her conversation with Abdan's son turned out to be rather interesting with several self-contradictory claims made by him. For instance, as Abdan's son claimed, if his father's ATM card were to be stolen, how did the thief get hold of its PIN?
Still, giving him the benefit of the doubt that he may telling the truth, she shared her number with him on his request so that his father can call her directly to clear any misunderstanding.
The next day she received a call from a number 017-9#$@#%3, it belonged to an Abdan bin Munir, advertising on the Internet a health cream for females, which among other things, helps to firm up breasts. All of this eventually led her to believe that it's the same man, she revealed in her follow-up blog post titled 'Exposing The Scammer's Accomplice, Abdan bin Munir!'
When she called back on the number, Abdan answered the call. He then repeated to her what his son had earlier, that he has lost his ATM card and that he had not been using his bank account for a long time. He also claimed that there was little or no money in the account.
She questioned him: how could someone who stole his ATM card know the PIN number? Did he actually pass the PIN number to someone?
His answer: he feigned ignorance, saying he had no idea how.
He apologised and said he had asked his bank to block the card (but not shut down the account). However, when she asked him if he could just email her a copy of his bank account with his address and other personal information blacked out, so that she could verify what he told her.
The basic idea behind asking him to do so was to check if it was really true that Abdan's bank account was empty prior to her putting in the money for Derry. The bank statement would reveal all this effectively. In response, he said he would talk to his son about it and hung up.
Following which, she decided to contact his son again, asking for the same thing and explaining further that all she needed was to see the evidence. That's all. If only they can show her the proof to prove their claims, she would be happy to remove Abdan bin Munir's name from her blog to avoid further embarrassment to his family. But from that moment on, Abdan's son refused to respond to any of her Facebook messages.
Now this is where it gets really interesting. On the evening of 12 May 2015, she received a WhatsApp text from a different number claiming to be Abdan bin Munir, using Abdan's photo.
What followed was, in her own words, "the most bull crap sh#t story" she had to deal with in one day, second only to the "bullsh#t crap story she was told by the scammer 'Derry Johnstone'.
He told her that he couldn't pick up her earlier calls as he was at the mosque. He then asked her what evidence did she want. She told him she was seeking his bank statement and police report so she can verify that his story was true.
Next Abdan told her that he would tell her the true story as long as she didn't reveal it to his family and son, to which she agreed. He then told her that he actually gave his ATM card to a Japanese woman whom he met on Facebook and he sent her a photo of the supposed Japanese woman. He explained that this woman could not open a bank account and so he let her use his ATM card but now he figured that she was using it for scams.
All this going back and forth on Abdan's claim annoyed her. So she insisted that she wants to see Abdan's bank statement and the police report that he had made earlier.
When she further probed about the Japanese woman, he told her name. However, it sounded a lot like a Filipino sounding name and then he said she's a mix Japanese-Filipino woman. He also said that the woman wanted to start a boutique in Malaysia and she used his account 2 months ago so her sister in the USA could transfer RM100,000 to her to start her business.
After more questioning, he said he had actually never even met this Japanese woman. Laughing, when she asked if he hasn't even met her, how did he then give her his ATM card? He said he couriered it to her and showed her a courier slip with her supposed address, which actually turned out to be a name of a restaurant in Cheras.
In short, Abdan basically expected her to believe he actually couriered his ATM card to a woman he had never even met in person before.
Later, to make the matter even weirder, a man claiming to be a police officer contacted her, saying that Abdan had lodged a police report claiming his account had been misused after he gave his ATM card to a Malay woman.
A Malay woman? But didn't he claim it was a Japanese woman and then a Japanese-Filipino woman? Now suddenly she was Malay?
It was evident, from Abdan's constant excuses and going back and forth on his claims, that he was simply using this Japanese (or Malay) woman's photos for his fake story. Sensing how now Abdan was trying to play her, she demanded back her money or else his story and all his lies would go on her blog.
However, Abdan stopped responding to her messages after that
So as a last resort, she decided to go public with all the information she had accumulated on Abdan and his family, telling everyone that Abdan bin Munir, husband and father to at least one son and 2 daughters, is very likely was in cahoots with the scammer pretending to 'Derry Johnstone'.
The woman sent a digital scan of her police report when asked by SAYS. There may be updates to this two-part series. Come back for more.